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den4
Dec 30, 2004, 01:08
Stupid dumb-a$$ people like these should never be allowed to breed...or, if they do have children, should offer the child up to adoption rather than go through this: 'tis not the first time this has happened in Japan, and it's curious how many more have to happen before the government bans parents from doing this practice...



Baby girl dies after being left in car for 12 hours as parents play pachinko

Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 14:54 JST
TSU ― A 6-month-old baby girl died Tuesday after being left in a minivehicle for about 12 hours while her parents played pachinko, in Inabe, Mie Prefecture, police said Wednesday.

The parents told investigators that they started playing pachinko at around 9:30 a.m. Tuesday, leaving their daughter in the car in the parking lot. The parents told the police they returned about 10 times to the car to check on the baby, but did not feed her as she seemed to be asleep, but at around 9:30 p.m. they realized something was wrong. (Kyodo News)

アシピレン
Dec 30, 2004, 02:33
ばかですよ!ちがいます!ちがいます!
Stupid! It's wrong it's wrong! ARRRRR!
しに! They should die. Serious don't people even care?

chiefen
Dec 30, 2004, 03:55
Reminds me of a baby in the states who were left in a car under the gazing sun for hours. The baby died, of course.

Faustianideals
Dec 30, 2004, 04:05
Wasn't the mother playing everquest in the US?

misa.j
Dec 30, 2004, 05:30
Same incidents have happened so, so many times, and it doesn't seem like those irresponsible parents are going to change or learn.

For the last solution, this sounds very stupid, but maybe they should build a daycare right next to those pachinko places, like they do at a supermarket in the U.S.

アシピレン
Dec 30, 2004, 06:40
hrmm...50 years imprisionment would also discourage leaving children in unsafe enviroments. But thats because this is a major issue.

Mike Cash
Dec 30, 2004, 09:12
I hate to tell you people this, but the only thing unusual about this story is that it happened in the wintertime.

Babies broiling to death in pachinko parking lots are standard stories in Japanese news each and every summer.

Ewok85
Dec 30, 2004, 11:23
Happens here with babies left in cars while the parents play the pokies (slotmachines) and whatnot.

den4
Dec 30, 2004, 16:49
I hate to tell you people this, but the only thing unusual about this story is that it happened in the wintertime.

Babies broiling to death in pachinko parking lots are standard stories in Japanese news each and every summer.

Yes, it has become standard...and that is the sad part....also sad that so many people have now become used to hearing it and the people are not outraged enough to force the government to do something about it...

of course, I'm sure it can be said that new laws enacted in Japan are about as slow as slugs crawling across the pavement on a rainy night...but it doesn't make the issue any less tragic or beyond stupid...

I suppose in a cynical way there will be one less chance of any idiot genes from continuing forth into the population now...

Kamisama
Dec 30, 2004, 17:13
i may be morbid when i first read that on japantoday my first reaction was...

heh.

that game is popular. that's about the only real thing i learned out of japanese 1 for gambling. People love that stupid addictive game pachinko. Isn't it ran by the yakuza?

it's still bad that they did that. Plus what mikecash said, i'm surprised the baby died. 12 hours could be diahrea or it could've choked on it's vomit.

misa.j
Dec 30, 2004, 23:51
12 hours could be diahrea or it could've choked on it's vomit.
Have you heard of SIDS(sudden infant death sydrome)?
I am not suggesting that this baby was the case, but all parents, who have a baby younger than a year old, or future parents should know about SIDS.
This is some information I found on Center for Disease Cntrol and Prevention site.

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) is the diagnosis given for the sudden death of an infant under one year of age that remains unexplained after a thorough case investigation, including an autopsy, a death scene investigation, review of the infant痴 health status prior to dying, and other family medical history. SIDS is the leading cause of death in infants between one month and one year of age. Most SIDS deaths occur between the ages of two and four months.

Who is at risk for SIDS?
Babies who sleep on their stomachs
Babies born to mothers who smoke during pregnancy and babies that are exposed to passive smoke after birth
Babies born to mothers who are less than 20 years old at the time of their first pregnancy
Babies born to mothers who had no or late prenatal care
Babies who are premature or low birth weight
Babies who are placed to sleep on soft surfaces such as soft mattresses, sofas, sofa cushions, waterbeds, sheep skins, or other soft surfaces
Babies who are placed to sleep in an environment containing fluffy and loose bedding, such as pillows, quilts or other coverings, stuffed toys, and other soft items

It is also important to note that・
Boys are at greater risk for SIDS than girls.
African American infants are twice as likely to die of SIDS as white infants.
American Indian infants are nearly three times more likely to die of SIDS as white infants.
More SIDS deaths occur in colder months.
Several studies have demonstrated no association between receiving infant immunizations and SIDS.
SIDS is not contagious.
SIDS is not caused by child abuse or neglect.

What causes SIDS?
Although researchers are still trying to understand what causes SIDS, the following are some important clues:

Evidence suggests that some SIDS babies are born with brain abnormalities that make them vulnerable to sudden death during infancy. In many SIDS babies, abnormalities are found in parts of the brainstem that use serotonin as a neurotransmitter, and are thought to be involved in the control of breathing during sleep, sensing carbon dioxide and oxygen, and the ability to wake up. A baby with this abnormality may lack a protective brain mechanism that senses abnormal respiration or cardiovascular function and normally leads babies to wake up and take a breath.
Babies who sleep on their stomachs may get their faces caught in bedding, which causes them to breathe too much carbon dioxide and too little oxygen. Researchers are studying whether this is why sleeping on the stomach is hazardous and why babies with brainstem abnormality die when sleeping in this position.

A larger number of babies who died from SIDS apparently had respiratory or gastrointestinal infections prior to their deaths. This fact may explain why more SIDS cases occur during the colder months of the year.
Researchers indicate that some SIDS babies had higher-than-normal numbers of cells and proteins generated by the immune system. Some of these proteins interact with the brain to alter heart rate, slow breathing during sleep, or put the baby into a deep sleep, which may be strong enough to cause death, particularly if the baby has an underlying brain abnormality.

What can parents and other caregivers do to lower the risk of SIDS?
While there is currently no way to predict which babies will die from SIDS, there are ways to lower the risk of SIDS:
Place babies to sleep on their backs, unless advised otherwise by a physician.
Place the baby on a firm mattress, such as in a safety-approved crib or other firm surface.
Remove all fluffy and loose bedding, such as fluffy blankets or other coverings, pillows, quilts, and stuffed toys, from the baby痴 sleep area.
Get good prenatal care, including proper nutrition, no maternal smoking or drug/alcohol use, and frequent medical check-ups beginning early in pregnancy.
Take babies for regular well-baby check-ups and routine immunizations.
For more information about SIDS and infant sleep position, contact the Back to Sleep campaign at 1-800-505-CRIB, or visit the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) web site at: http://www.nichd.nih.gov/sids/sids.htm

Mike Cash
Dec 31, 2004, 10:49
Who is at risk for SIDS?
Babies who sleep on their stomachs
Babies born to mothers who smoke during pregnancy and babies that are exposed to passive smoke after birth
Babies born to mothers who are less than 20 years old at the time of their first pregnancy
Babies born to mothers who had no or late prenatal care
Babies who are premature or low birth weight
Babies who are placed to sleep on soft surfaces such as soft mattresses, sofas, sofa cushions, waterbeds, sheep skins, or other soft surfaces
Babies who are placed to sleep in an environment containing fluffy and loose bedding, such as pillows, quilts or other coverings, stuffed toys, and other soft items
Babies who are left unattended in pachinko parlor parking lots by their brain-dead, piece-of-5hit, worthless human scum pi55-poor parents.







I fixed your post.

cyber ape
Jan 1, 2005, 03:42
It's only 12 hours. Now, I may not know how an infant's system works, or the temperature or sicknesses it may have had, etc, but seriously, it's rather absurd that a perfect baby would just DIE in 12 hours because they were not fed. There's clearly something I'm missing, because....

Anyways, yep, that's sad. Who cares if it's sleeping or not? Wake it up, feed it, and hope it goes to sleep. Better yet, take it with you. Bad atmosphere? Have a good friend watch over it.

Oh well, every country has its mishaps.

sgt. Pepper
Jan 1, 2005, 10:37
Who leaves a baby alone in a car for 12 hours? O__o

lexico
Aug 29, 2005, 06:24
OFF TOPIC: SID among AfroAmerican and Native American babies connected to Continued Genocide Policy of the US

A. Who is at risk for SIDS ?

Boys are at greater risk for SIDS than girls.
African American infants are twice as likely to die of SIDS as white infants.
American Indian infants are nearly three times more likely to die of SIDS as white infants.
More SIDS deaths occur in colder months.
Several studies have demonstrated no association between receiving infant immunizations and SIDS.
SIDS is not contagious.
SIDS is not caused by child abuse or neglect.B.Evidence suggests that some SIDS babies are born with brain abnormalities that make them vulnerable to sudden death during infancy. In many SIDS babies, abnormalities are found in parts of the brainstem that use serotonin as a neurotransmitter, and are thought to be involved in the control of breathing during sleep, sensing carbon dioxide and oxygen, and the ability to wake up. A baby with this abnormality may lack a protective brain mechanism that senses abnormal respiration or cardiovascular function and normally leads babies to wake up and take a breath.
Babies who sleep on their stomachs may get their faces caught in bedding, which causes them to breathe too much carbon dioxide and too little oxygen. Researchers are studying whether this is why sleeping on the stomach is hazardous and why babies with brainstem abnormality die when sleeping in this position.

A larger number of babies who died from SIDS apparently had respiratory or gastrointestinal infections prior to their deaths. This fact may explain why more SIDS cases occur during the colder months of the year.
Researchers indicate that some SIDS babies had higher-than-normal numbers of cells and proteins generated by the immune system. Some of these proteins interact with the brain to alter heart rate, slow breathing during sleep, or put the baby into a deep sleep, which may be strong enough to cause death, particularly if the baby has an underlying brain abnormality.C. [W]ays to lower the risk of SIDS:

Place babies to sleep on their backs, unless advised otherwise by a physician.
Place the baby on a firm mattress, such as in a safety-approved crib or other firm surface.
Remove all fluffy and loose bedding, such as fluffy blankets or other coverings, pillows, quilts, and stuffed toys, from the baby痴 sleep area.
Get good prenatal care, including proper nutrition, no maternal smoking or drug/alcohol use, and frequent medical check-ups beginning early in pregnancy.
Take babies for regular well-baby check-ups and routine immunizations.From what is written here, I can only conclude that the CDC information has not being totally forthcoming. It should have said either the unusually high incidence in AfroAmerican babies and AmerIndian babies are due to

1. congenital defect: possibly genetic, possibly substance abuse during pregnancy <== deduced from data A & C

2. child neglect: from being ill-informed a/o culturally oppressed and deprived of pblic health care information <== deduced from data A & B

Therefore I suspect the underlined in A., "SIDS is not caused by child abuse or neglect" is a lie. What is called risk factors are mostly a euphemism for 'neglect' or 'child neglect,' and 'child abuse ' is is clearly stated acc. to wikipedia information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome) quoted below. Not educating the public, esp. when the high racial incidence is known, is governmental mass neglect, and hence it can be proven that it is genocide or genocidal.Prenatal risks
inadequate prenatal care
inadequate prenatal nutrition
tobacco smoking
use of cocaine or heroin
teenage pregnancy
less than a one year interval between subsequent births

Post-natal risks

low birth weight (especially less than 1.5 kg)
exposure to tobacco smoke
laying an infant to sleep on his or her stomach (see positional plagiocephaly)
failure to breastfeed
excess clothing and overheating
excess bedding, soft sleep surface and stuffed animals
sex (60% of deaths occur in males)
age (incidence is higher between 2-4 months)
In addition, research indicates a reduced risk of SIDS in conjunction with a safe co-sleeping arrangement. Though findings are still preliminary, the proximity of a parent's respiration is thought to stimulate proper respiratory development in the infant.


SIDS and child abuse

Controversial British paediatrician Sir Roy Meadow believes that many cases diagnosed as SIDS are really the result of child abuse on the part of a parent suffering from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (a condition which he himself identified). During the 1990's and early 2000's, a great many mothers of multiple apparent SIDS victims were convicted of murder on the basis of Meadow's opinion. However, in 2003 a number of high-profile acquittals brought Sir Roy's theories into disrepute, and many now doubt their credibility. Several hundred murder convictions are now under review.

On the other hand, in a 6 March 2004 incident, a father is being accused of the murders of four of his children, one of which had been ruled a case of SIDS[1], and the National Clearinghouse on Child Abuse and Neglect Information indicates more than half of child abuse cases may be unreported or described as SIDS.I also suspect this is the result of what can technically be called 'tacit genocide.' A possible cause of concealing such information might be due to

1) wanting to avoid accusations of racist policy by pointing out genetically determined race-specific information

2) wanting to avoid the extra gov'tal spending in protecting certain non-white populations in the US; AfroAmerican and Native Indians also pay tax. How could the gov't be stingy in spending their tax money on preventing the undely high incidence of SID's among them ? I think this is another piece of evidence that the US gov't is continuing in its 2 century old genocidal policy of reducing these minority races in number by letting their babies die by doing nothing about it. That is racism and tacit genocide at its worst.

Jack
Aug 30, 2005, 17:52
so what happened to the parents?
of course they shouldn't be allowed to have children, surely.

lexico
Aug 30, 2005, 18:00
There should be a law against genetic genocide; failure to raise an offspring to adulthood is a crime against humanity ~! :p

反人類的犯罪 ==> They should be put on a rehab program to survive in a world where the temptation to play pachingko can never overtake their reason. Insert the pachinko-pain chip in their heads, and be hugged.

Jack
Aug 30, 2005, 18:07
i second that, its obsurd that they even forgot there child, bl**dy idiots!!

Kinsao
Aug 31, 2005, 19:12
I read about this before somewhere... it's terrible. :( Especially that it happens so often...

I am not really surprised that the baby died in 12 hours... because even if it was healthy, it can easily choke or turn over and get smothered.

alBiNo_effEct
Dec 22, 2005, 05:53
Irresponsible parents! I bet that was just another technique of infanticide! :(

Chris K
Jan 12, 2007, 02:42
It's only 12 hours. Now, I may not know how an infant's system works, or the temperature or sicknesses it may have had, etc, but seriously, it's rather absurd that a perfect baby would just DIE in 12 hours because they were not fed. There's clearly something I'm missing, because....
Anyways, yep, that's sad. Who cares if it's sleeping or not? Wake it up, feed it, and hope it goes to sleep. Better yet, take it with you. Bad atmosphere? Have a good friend watch over it.
Oh well, every country has its mishaps.12 hours in a probably locked car and closed windows (was winter remember) No fresh air so given a few hours low oxygen and high CO2. SOunds like a good recipe for dead kid to me.

Goldiegirl
Jan 12, 2007, 03:02
The Us government does not withhold information on SIDS or what constitutes care or neglect for babies based on your color. Actually in Wisconsin you get extra if you are a minority, it's being white that is getting to be hard.

There was just another case of a woman placing her 11 month old in her gas oven (turned ON!) because she and her boyfriend had a fight. Neglect of children happens in all countries for many reasons, mainly stupidity, arrogance, ignorance and selfishness. It's a me first world we live in and everybody is out for themselves and their happiness first.

Mrjones
Jan 13, 2007, 11:36
Disgusting behaviour of child parents.

Kimochi
Feb 11, 2007, 05:34
That's terrible.

How can they ever live with that?

KirinMan
Feb 11, 2007, 06:24
I'd bet the only reason they left the kid in the car is because they couldn't take the child into the parlor with them.


How can they ever live with that?

Good question, maybe they should be locked up in a car in the middle of summer as a punishment.

Mike Cash
Feb 11, 2007, 11:08
I'd bet the only reason they left the kid in the car is because they couldn't take the child into the parlor with them.


No, the reason they left the kid in the car is because they're irresponsible pieces of trash.

Seriously, this sort of thing is a regular news item every summer. And it will continue to be.

As I have often said in private over the years, the only thing that keeps a certain portion of the Japanese population from being white trash is that they're not white.

epigene
Feb 11, 2007, 11:57
As I have often said in private over the years, the only thing that keeps a certain portion of the Japanese population from being white trash is that they're not white.
Boy, I do love the way you say the things I've been saying myself!! :blush:

Yoko_Kisaragi
Feb 13, 2007, 04:20
Oh my gosh, how could you even do that!? :(

ArmandV
Feb 13, 2007, 05:05
I've never seen kids locked in a car with windows rolled up, but I have come awful close to breaking a couple of car windows of people who left their dog in the car without air. Both times they came out a split second before I bashed their windows. Each time they got major sh*t from me.

GoodBilly
Feb 13, 2007, 18:28
There were worse cases.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6161143.stm

quamp
Feb 13, 2007, 21:27
Yea, it was very stupid of them...
But look on the bright side: Here in the USA, we have child care experts who do that. There was a story not too long ago where a child in Desoto, Texas (a suburb of Dallas) smothered to death because he was being punished on a field trip. He was made to sit in a bus for four hours while the temperature outside was 37 celsius. :auch:
Not surprisingly, the parents have sued.

aokami
Feb 16, 2007, 03:41
If only the international govenment standard was to provide no-cost sterilization to anyone who signed up.. maybe then the news would stop being so depressing. I feel horrible for this complete waste of hope.

yukio_michael
Feb 16, 2007, 10:23
Kind of reminds me of this situation, which happened in South Korea...

In a story out of Korea, which is just now surfacing in the Western press, a couple in Incheon, South Korea, were arrested last week when their 4-month-old daughter died after being left alone by the couple for hours. The mother and father reportedly had gone to a nearby Internet cafe, lost themselves in playing Blizzard's massively multiplayer online PC game World of Warcraft, and returned to their home only to find the infant dead from suffocation. "We booked the pair on criminal charges, judging that when you consider the situation, they were responsible for their daughter's death," a policeman told the Chosun Ilbo newspaper. The couple reportedly told police, "We were thinking of playing for just an hour or two and returning home like usual, but the game took longer that day." The infant was the couple's only child.

Also, here (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59697).

CplAaronClarkUSMC
Feb 22, 2007, 06:10
Stupid dumb-a$$ people like these should never be allowed to breed...or, if they do have children, should offer the child up to adoption rather than go through this: 'tis not the first time this has happened in Japan, and it's curious how many more have to happen before the government bans parents from doing this practice...
Baby girl dies after being left in car for 12 hours as parents play pachinko
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 14:54 JST
TSU ― A 6-month-old baby girl died Tuesday after being left in a minivehicle for about 12 hours while her parents played pachinko, in Inabe, Mie Prefecture, police said Wednesday.
The parents told investigators that they started playing pachinko at around 9:30 a.m. Tuesday, leaving their daughter in the car in the parking lot. The parents told the police they returned about 10 times to the car to check on the baby, but did not feed her as she seemed to be asleep, but at around 9:30 p.m. they realized something was wrong. (Kyodo News)

This is called murder and at the very least manslaughter. In the United States, you could be charged for manslaughter for doing this.

No, the reason they left the kid in the car is because they're irresponsible pieces of trash.
Seriously, this sort of thing is a regular news item every summer. And it will continue to be.
As I have often said in private over the years, the only thing that keeps a certain portion of the Japanese population from being white trash is that they're not white.

They see the children probably as "jamakusai" and "urusaiyatsu". Many people don't know what they are getting into when they have children. They need to be going to jail for manslaughter if they bring children into the world, and neglect them. In today's society, no one forces you to marry and have children. If you do so, one must put the child first over their own entertainment. I do realize that many are not ready to do this, but they must be legally disciplined.

Kirie_Maiden
Mar 8, 2007, 18:33
It's a common saying that "Dogs Die in Hot Cars", and it is even a band name, but people seem to forget that it can happen to children too. I was left in a boiling car (at my own request before anybody says my parent are irresponsible) last year... but then again, I thought I could unlock the door. It was only when I realised that the owner of the car had DOUBLE LOCKED the door, that I realised I was trapped, burst into tears and almost passed out from the heat. :blush:

Still, I hate seeing babies in cars on their own on car parks. It's stupid parenting and the parents should be told... or shot...

jguticon
Nov 13, 2007, 04:31
The Us government does not withhold information on SIDS or what constitutes care or neglect for babies based on your color. Actually in Wisconsin you get extra if you are a minority, it's being white that is getting to be hard.
There was just another case of a woman placing her 11 month old in her gas oven (turned ON!) because she and her boyfriend had a fight. Neglect of children happens in all countries for many reasons, mainly stupidity, arrogance, ignorance and selfishness. It's a me first world we live in and everybody is out for themselves and their happiness first.

I agree you goldiegirl

kireikoori
Nov 13, 2007, 05:14
it's being white that is getting to be hard.
Truer words have not been spoken.